Manually Drawing Framing Members


Reference Number: KB-00727
Last Modified: March 6, 2020

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QUESTION

Sometimes, when I am manually drawing framing I encounter a message that tells me the item I want to draw cannot be created at the location I want and asks if I want to draw a general framing member instead. 

"Could not create a roof rafter at this location because no roof planes were found.  Would you like to create a general framing member instead?"

Why is this happening and what should I do?


ANSWER

This message will display if you try to draw a framing member at a location other than inside of a structural component that it is meant to frame - for example, if you try to draw a Joist outside of a floor or ceiling platform.

Other versions of this message include:

  • Could not create a floor or ceiling joist at this location because no appropriate platform was found.

  • Could not create a floor or ceiling beam at this location because no appropriate platform was found. 

  • Could not create a floor or ceiling truss at this location because no appropriate roof and ceiling planes were found.

  • Could not create floor or ceiling blocking at this location because no appropriate platform was found.

  • Could not create a roof beam at this location because no roof planes were found.

  • Could not create roof blocking at this location because no roof planes were found.

  • Could not create a roof truss at this location because no roof planes were found. 


Manually drawing framing members

The Floor/Ceiling Framing Tools can only be used to draw objects that are located within floor or ceiling platforms defined by rooms. These tools are:

  • Joist

    Joists are always drawn as the ceiling framing for the current floor. The presence of a floor platform above will determine if a floor or ceiling joist is drawn.

  • Joist Blocking

    Each run of blocking will behave as a single object and is drawn in by dragging in a straight line within the floor or ceiling platform. The blocking is based on what is specified in the framing defaults.

  • Floor/Ceiling Truss

    Trusses are always drawn as the ceiling framing for the current floor. The presence of a floor platform above will determine if a floor or ceiling truss is drawn.

  • Floor/Ceiling Beam

    Beams can be drawn in two different ways:

    • Under Joists places beams underneath joists so the joists can bear on it. 

    • With Joists places beams even with the tops of joists it supports. The joist then butts against it.

Similarly, the Roof Framing Tools can only be used to draw objects that are located within roof planes. These tools are:

  • Rafter

    Rafters are drawn within roof planes in a straight line and can be edited like other framing members. The height and slope are automatically reset to fit under the roof plane.

  • Roof Blocking

    Roof blocking is automatically generated at the eaves if a soffit is not present. It is drawn perpendicular to the rafters at the same pitch based off your framing defaults.

  • Roof Truss

    Roof trusses can only be drawn manually as long as roof planes and ceiling planes are present.

  • Roof Beam

    Roof beams are normally drawn across rafters and placed directly underneath them.

If you require a framing member located outside of a floor platform, ceiling platform, roof plane, or ceiling plane structural component, then you will need to use the General Framing  tool to draw it.


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